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Post by Twilight Magistrate Datenshi on Sept 9, 2013 4:03:34 GMT
I propose that if a warrior charges an enemy and physically can draw a weapon at the same time, then he can be assumed to have drawn it, even if the player forgets to say it.
Currently, the player that forgets to say so, just charges in the fight like an idiot with his bare hands.
Reasoning: The player might forget to say "I draw sword", but the character will never forget.
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Post by Effigy on Sept 9, 2013 8:19:31 GMT
My character Does not like the idea of assuming he draws his weapon on a charge. I do not always want my weapon drawn and prefer to say when I draw it or not.
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Post by Wyatt on Sept 9, 2013 8:31:34 GMT
the reason I'm OK with drawing weapons during combat is because it avoids situations where a character have multiple weapons. like for instance let's say I have a long bow and a long spear if an opponent attacks me I can be like "I have my spear out out I get an attack of op" or I'm far away "I have my bow out I get an extra shot in". its honestly not that hard to call drawing your weapon after the first 2 mess ups you'll remember.
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Post by hunterkiller725 on Sept 9, 2013 8:49:06 GMT
i dont like it because it causes automation where there shouldn't be any if you forget as a player to draw your sword then you as a character forgot plus it seems stupid to have to say "i dont draw my sword" rather than the other way around
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Post by Lector on Sept 9, 2013 13:42:40 GMT
I thought you couldn't draw on a charge anyways per pathfinder rules
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Post by hunterkiller725 on Sept 9, 2013 14:02:45 GMT
you can actually draw if you move your normal speed or less so lets say a normal human in light armor charges 60ft they could not draw there weapon but if they charge 30ft or less they can
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Post by Lector on Sept 9, 2013 14:15:29 GMT
I see but it doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal to say that you are drawing a weapon. There's just one thing to keep in mind since not being able to have a weapon drawn all the time is a house rule, we should be informing new players that it is a thing here. I've always had my weapon drawn in every DnD and pathfinder campaign I've played. No DM assumes I'm punching with my fists and provoking AOO it's just common sense. This time I don't even use a weapon so it doesn't really effect me yet.
So just keep in mind there are a lot of people who have never had to deal with drawing weapons at the start of combat and just inform them.
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Post by ceraton on Sept 9, 2013 15:14:00 GMT
This poll is silly. You need to make it where at the start of a match the weapon is considered drawn. That's what I was talking about. I didn't care about the charge. If one man goes to battle, why would he forget to draw his weapon?
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Post by Silver on Sept 9, 2013 15:36:19 GMT
I think the reason we dont have weapons drawn is because currently, we are randomly encountering things, and dont actually know we are going into battle.
But the main problem we got now, is people who have this biiiig axe, charging something and forgetting to say they pull out the axe. They then end up punching things, even though their character would NEVER punch instead of cleave with the axe. Perhaps we could have the GM's be more lenient when the player says "oh but i meant to draw it"
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Post by ceraton on Sept 9, 2013 15:49:53 GMT
What if we had drawing a weapon as a swift action on the first turn?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 16:29:30 GMT
I think as a GM you need to remind the players of their ability to draw their weapons in the move action if they have a +1 BAB
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Post by Colin Clout on Sept 9, 2013 20:01:00 GMT
the reason I'm OK with drawing weapons during combat is because it avoids situations where a character have multiple weapons. like for instance let's say I have a long bow and a long spear if an opponent attacks me I can be like "I have my spear out out I get an attack of op" or I'm far away "I have my bow out I get an extra shot in". its honestly not that hard to call drawing your weapon after the first 2 mess ups you'll remember. Couldn't have said it any better myself. It's just too easy for players to fudge it. And if there is anything I have been trying to explain about this game its that we shouldn't be fudging anything.
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Post by Statesman Jerakal on Sept 9, 2013 20:15:59 GMT
I would like to disagree with this thread on the grounds that there's a reason why we have to say our sword is drawn when we're charging in combat and it's been quoted right above me by the High Magistrate himself.
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Post by Twilight Magistrate Datenshi on Sept 9, 2013 21:33:02 GMT
So everyone is fine with the following:
Because that is currently what is happening.
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Post by Lector on Sept 9, 2013 21:47:42 GMT
So everyone is fine with the following: Because that is currently what is happening. GMs should be giving the players the benefit of the doubt on that especially if they are new to Calidor. Combat related house rules that differ from pathfinder are not clearly posted anywhere so they either should be informing the player or redoing the turn. No GM should ever assume that a player would want to punch a monster when he can provoke AOO AND has penalties to unarmed AND has a safer alternative aka his great sword.
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