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Post by Silver on Aug 9, 2013 19:54:03 GMT
How is it made useless? (I'd actually love a link because maybe tehre's some other stuff I missed) As for summoned monsters, Master summoner will take care of that. 3+CHA modifier worth of Summon monster per day, with Minute/level duration. And best part is, its core only. So if you guys dont want 3rd party, that fine. I will stick only to "core". Not like it'll save anyone from my wrath MWA AHAHAHAHAHA!
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Post by hemata on Aug 9, 2013 19:55:54 GMT
Which is fine to use. And leadership is made useless because the GM has said that you can get it, but it will have no effect and that further thoughts need to be made on it, particularly by the senate.
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Post by Silver on Aug 9, 2013 19:58:41 GMT
So, core is being disallowed on case by case basis, but 3rd party is just blanked banned? Makes me a sad psion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 20:09:55 GMT
There's one core publisher to weed through. Much easier than weeding through numerous other publisher's myriad rulesets. And when I asked about leadership, the situation was that followers, conceptually, are kind of useless in a large scale game where PCs can control nations and that we have time enough to figure out how to deal with NPC cohorts before any of is reach level 7. I'm holding out hope for implementation but at level 1 it's not affecting things.
If you want to play with psionics, that would be a much easier discussion to include that ruleset compared to including all rulesets everywhere.
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Post by hemata on Aug 9, 2013 20:14:06 GMT
I'll check over the pathfinder psions later and see what my opinion is on them. Then I'll make a case of for or against it on the senate chat and we'll get a vote in.
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Post by Silver on Aug 9, 2013 20:33:40 GMT
Well, the people might control nations, but you arent gonna actually HAVE nation battles. Not ones with 500+ individuals on each side. You will likely have a 5v5 with the "best" soldiers of one side vs the other. Thats how most places handle large scale fights. They have the small battle that you can actually control. Then say, one team of those 5 people wins, and its counted like their whole army won the battle. If that team lost say 2, and has 3 left, that means 2/5 of their army died in the battle.
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Post by Colin Clout on Aug 9, 2013 22:32:54 GMT
Any official pathfinder material is allowed. If it is not on the site but you can cite it in an official paizo book then it is allowed. 1. Drow Nobles are allowed in the game but must follow these rules. 2. Standard race building is allowed under specific rules. 3. I think if this change is considered is should be on a publishing company basis. E.g. many people have requested material from Dreamscarred press, a company that advertises their 3rd party material on paizos website and seems to adhere very close to paizo's balance.
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Post by Aegis Gram on Aug 10, 2013 5:50:51 GMT
Ah so Someone totally needs to make a sword saint. Kenshin Himura for the win. Sword saint is an archetype of samurai from Eastern material source book. I have it and it is sweet. The white haired witch is also fun.
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Post by Silver on Aug 13, 2013 13:49:01 GMT
Allowing PsionicsI have noticed a thread in the Citadel section on allowing psionics. I dont want to comment there, as its not for me, but I have seen some glaring holes in the arguments used against psionics that I want to clear up.
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No they cant. They cant augment the power with more points than their Manifester level (like caster level, but for powers).
2) 200ft movement is nice... Too bad a wizard still kills the with ease, because monks are weak, and psionics are weaker than arcane magic.
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You know, wizards also have mind control spells. Also, I couldnt find this mind blast you speak of... not it pathfinder atleast. I assume you mean Mind thrust. Granted, it has nice damage, it it hits. Too bad its: Mind affecting, Will save negates ALL damage, and its subject to SR.
If you guys think Psionics are OP, try looking up Broodmaster Summoner archetype. It 100% legit, and possibly the strongest class in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 14:38:14 GMT
I'm sorry Renen but I think that including all this other material will bog down our gm to some degree and slow down the game as well as making it harder for players less familiar with pathfinder. opening up 3rd party content also opens the doors to some power gaming that would worry me.
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Post by Silver on Aug 13, 2013 14:53:40 GMT
:-(
I only started playing DnD 5 months or so ago. Yet im familiar with both PF and 3.5, and I dont even spend much time on the game. I just figured that other people learn fast as well, if its something they enjoy.
Also, I do agree to the power gaming aspect to a point, but as I said before, using only 1st party material, you can already be very strong. (See above example of Broodmaster Summoner)
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Post by SigniferLux on Aug 13, 2013 15:21:50 GMT
The main problem with the allowance of 3rd party content, as mentioned before, is the time it would take to judge it and the different arguements it would take between the people who choose on what is ok and what is not to choose.
I also asked for a 3.5 feat, but understand that, to be fair, if they allow me the 3.5 feat they should be much more flexible with your request and vice versa. Then, when you least expect it, material from DnD 0ed comes to play, then from World of Darkness, and suddenly this game makes totally no sense any more. And we don't need that.
If you really want to play the roleplaying idea behind a psion, just take a spellcaster and refluff him to look as if he is casting spells with his mind, his eyes burning a silverish light. Or maybe get a rogue with high charisma and use magic device and take the false casting feat. Or hell, get magus. Refluff him to make his spells look like psionics, and the you got your psychic warrior. Not much of a difference at what those two could do.
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Post by Silver on Aug 13, 2013 15:38:06 GMT
Except i like psionics for the mechanics, not the fluff. But I guess people wont allow 3rd pt until they see what 1st pt material can do :-(
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